Choosing a College 2

In hindsight my “Choosing a College 1” post was among the more ridiculous I’ve written this year.  

Here’s the comment I kept expecting someone to write, “What planet are you living on Byrnes? Do you really think ANY 17-19 year old in the country will choose their college based on the thoughtfulness of the general education program? That’s not even as important as the school’s colors, whether the cafeteria serves frozen yogurt, and whether the dorms get high speed internet and cable television.” 

Thank you for being so apathetic. 

Thanks to that apathy, I’m going to make another maybe even more ridiculous suggestion for choosing a college: choose one you can afford.

I’m going to go even farther and suggest the student and their family start thinking about how they’re going to afford to send their future children/grandchildren to college.

From today’s newspaper the headline reads “Rising Tuition, Credit Crunch Threaten Affordability of Higher Education”. Here are the first two sentences: A new study on American higher education gave all but one state a failing grade on affordability, and warned that college could soon be out of reach for most Americans. The biennial study by the nonprofit National Center for Public Policy and Higher Education gave 49 states an F for affordability, up from 43 two years ago. California passed with a C because of its community college system.

The author went on to say if current trends continue, in 25 years, college will be out of reach for most families.

When it comes to college decision making, people seemingly assume you get what you pay for. Sometimes that’s true, but not always. I received an excellent education (some may dispute that) at a large public institution that was one-third the price of most small private ones. 

I work at an expensive, smallish private institution that likes to tell anyone that will listen that we provide a much better education than the larger, less expensive publics. The argument is go to the large public school if you like being thought of as a number in large classes taught by overextended graduate teaching assistants.

Most of my classes were taught by exceptional scholars. I learned early on to take initiative and knock on their doors during office hours. By doing so I made the humungous college much smaller. They’d stop typing (yeah I’m old) their next book and we’d talk about the course content or the paper I was working on. Interestingly, few of my students come to office hours. 

I had some brilliant graduate teaching assistants who were inspiring beginning teachers. I remember one who got pissed at us for not being prepared for a discussion. After ripping us in ways we deserved, he walked out. We were stunned and way more prepared for the next discussion.  The TA’s taught “discussion sections” of 25 students. Yes, the lecture was 400, but there were also 16 sections that met weekly. 

I learned as much outside of class as in because our student body was incredibly diverse and our campus drew a steady stream of fascinating speakers including national and world leaders. Every night, somewhere on campus, there was an interesting documentary or lecture. Then there were the world class libraries where most of my learning took place.

In another recent newspaper article on college affordability, a family said they were going to take out loans to pay their child’s $41,000 college tuition. I’d like to ask them why. I’d suspect they’d say because it’s an investment in his/her future. 

There are at least three problems with this line of thinking.

1) As I’ve tried to illustrate, tuition and the quality of the educational opportunities provided aren’t perfectly correlated.

2) Stretching financially inevitably leads to unnecessary stress.  College expenses are similar to home construction expenses, there are always unanticipated hidden costs. For example, once I assigned an extra book mid-semester. It was available on Amazon.com for $10, but a few students said they couldn’t afford it. I like to think of myself as compassionate, but I had a hard time processing those objections in the context of our $30,000 tuition/room/board.  

3) The principle of compound interest makes building wealth relatively easy if young people start saving early. But increasingly, young people are graduating from their expensive colleges in serious debt, thus sacrificing the compound interest window.

I don’t understand why more people don’t strategize on how to get through college debt free.

I know, I know that’s not the American way, with our negative savings rate. Live in the present, spend freely. Don’t worry about future debt.

In the end, maybe someone will bail you out.

4 thoughts on “Choosing a College 2

  1. Nice post. I work at a small public liberal arts college, a place that is actively trying to fill that niche between the big public schools that emphasize research and the small liberal arts colleges that have small class sizes, professors teaching, and a focus on each student. Kiplingers once ranked us in the top 100 for “value.” But it’s tough. Faculty teach a 12 credit a semester load (it used to be 4 three credit courses, now 3 four credit courses — usually all separate preps for me), and there are heavy advising and service requirements. Scholarship suffers — sabbaticals aren’t a given, and last only a semester anyway. The faculty here is very teaching-oriented, even as we try to keep up scholarship. I have a friend who teaches at an expensive liberal arts college less than 40 miles away. When we trade notes, I envy her time for research (and her salary), but honestly prefer to have no pressure to research a lot (as long as projects exist and somethings are published now and then), and to really have my teaching rewarded and focused upon. Students at a school like this are very thankful to professors for their efforts. And I honestly think that although we are not top scholars in our fields (even if we could be we don’t have time!), and our university lacks money for all the tools and perks a private school offers, students have just as many opportunities here to set themselves up for grad school or a fine career — and many do. I can’t see in these times going into massive debt or taking out a huge home equity loan just to pay for college. There is value in quality public universities — you just need to know what you want and find what fits.

  2. Ron,
    I think you make some good points but I do not agree with all of them. I don’t have the same experience at UCLA that you did. Yes, I made contact with some interesting teachers, but it was not until I got into upper division classes. I transferred from USF a private school of 32oo undergrads, and I have had patients (I am a therapist) at places like Occidental, and Loyola who have shared their college experience with me, and my sense is that right from the beginning, that a small private school is more personal and less bureaucratic. You feel more looked after, e.g., you meet with your academic advisor and discuss what classes and teacher would be good for you to take and its done, and the effort to speak to a teacher is a lot easier when you have a freshman class of 25 rather than of 250. It can be done, but it takes more work inititative.. Do I think that one should sell the farm for that experience? No. Are there advantages to being at a big school where you can hear famous people and have choices and diversity you don’t have on a small campus?

  3. I would like to remind people of the community college choice. For some, even public institutions mean getting into debt, while some community colleges offer a fine start to a four year education at a lower price and are often overlooked.

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